Javascript must be enabled to use this site. They may feel emasculated and when the marriage begins to fail, they lose control and parts of their own identitythis kind of melds into the CIVIL REPUTABLE killer when it comes to identity and it appears both CW and SW had their complete lives wrapped up in their family. Why do you need film footage of that? To protect their client? The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. Shanann Watts often posted about the product Le-Vel: THRIVE. She hit rock bottom in her final weeks of life because of CW. (Continued from Part One, Part Two & Part Three of The Chris Watts Interview Confession Transcript ). I like nice things and having nice experiences. And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. Introducing the THRIVE ELITE Experience. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. If you want to take your results to an even higher level, be sure you combine your Classic THRIVE Experience or THRIVE ELITE Experience products with regular exercise, sufficient sleep and a healthy nutrition plan consisting of low-sugar and low-carb foods. You feel like youre expendable. This was on a CNN site Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. @Mustang Sally. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 . Yes, based on her social media statements, it was clearly and explicitly on the cards . Blood testing would determine the sex much earlier than ultrasound. That is never a good sign. I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. You can now find out the babys sex with high accuracy (I believe around 98%) around 12-13 weeks. She was making it very difficult for him to go through with a divorce. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. From all of my reading the last few days this is what I read, two of her friends were putting on the gender reveal party and after she found out Chriss feeling on the pregnancy she called off the party. Chris then brought his (living) children with him to his work site to . She was the same way with her 1st husband. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . Shanann Watts sold Thrive, a weight-loss supplement that promised to improve energy and overall health. NICKVDL needs to let others do the thinking. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. I just thank God he took the right Shanann was absolutely obsessed with money and the finer things in life. Choosing his clothes, his meals, his everything. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. So why didnt Watts just get a divorce, like the district attorney said? Le-Vel Brand Promoters are able to earn amazing rewards: COPY THIS TEXT AND POST TO YOUR PREFERRED For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. He was working out a lot, especially while Shannan [sic] was in NC. Well, wouldnt Le-Vel the company that hit $1 billion in lifetime sales just a year earlier have a vested interest in protecting their brand by controlling the health aspect of the criminal trial narrative? Matching outfits neck braces patches videos of her husband finding out about the pregnancy. By August, friends said Shanann Watts was worried about her marriage crumbling. Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". But, once she started selling Thrive, her friend said she was making between $65,000 and $70,000 a year and that she had signed up approximately 200 people. That was definitely the plan." And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. He buried Shanann in a shallow grave near an . IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. He learned of this case from social media and news. Millions of people face this everyday, I know I did. Create a free profile to get unlimited access to exclusive videos, breaking news, sweepstakes, and more! By Olivia Jakiel Written on Oct 24, 2020. Over the last 7 months of her life the final 2 months showed the lowest output in Live videos, down from double digits to just 5, and then 0. Your email address will not be published. John Forbes officiating. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. There is content out there that confirms not only did Shanann know a split was on the cards, but her own family did too. I dont know if Shanann could have acclamated herself to a different lifestyle, honestly I guess well never know. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. She would contact CW and NKs employer outing them and she would stir up ANY kind of shit she could even if it would be detrimental to her own children. There are also a multitude of other ingredients in the patches, which well get to later. Figuring she would have no where to sell and video like a nutcase anymore. Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. When taken by mouth: Phenethylamine is POSSIBLY UNSAFE for most people, info about the drugs side effects reads. The friend said she didnt think the news should be given over the phone so she could either come over right then ,which was about ten pm ,or wait till the morning she chose to wait till the morning. Cindy does not come off as unlikeable at all to me. We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. "I love Chris! Maybe thats why Le-Vel appealed to her so much, everything had its time and place, and promotors could get other promotors to do their bidding and feel powerful and significant within that schema. Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. 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She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. In an interview, Chris Wattss mistress, Nichol Kessinger, confirmed that he had been doubling up on Thrive patchesand that they affected his personality. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. Thriveclaims to be packed with over 100 premium grade vitamins, minerals, plant extracts, digestive enzymes, probiotics, antioxidants, protein, fiber and more as it bolsters energy and eases aches. I don't really know the right words, I don't think any drug could be a reason in and of itself as a reason for murderbutdrugs do alter brain chemistry and personality, and what I think is drugs alter your moods, memory, and can cause you to take actions that you otherwise would not have.. It seemed choreographed. If youre being cheated on and told by your husband that he doesnt want the baby youre pregnant with anymore and told that youre no longer compatible, Im pretty sure 99.9% of people wouldnt have the same momentum and would be feeling not well., Would you like top sell us some of your Thrive while youre here? Hes wishy washy with both and leads them to believe one thing when he actually means another. That was the plan. REFER 2 AND YOUR THRIVE PRODUCTS ARE Basically, it is much the same as ephedrine, the user continued, adding that it is similar to meth, and a white middle class couple in their 30s who have never done drugs might not know what the signs of being on meth are. Like a mercy killing. Required fields are marked *. We take it as a given that using Thrive supplements might have no effect or a negligible effect. That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. It is important to note that the amount of each ingredient thats listed on the Thrive products is largely unknown. The Watts family murders occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, US. in the future. At around 2 a.m. on August 13, 2018, she dropped Shannan off at her Frederick, Colorado, home following a weekend business trip they had taken to Arizona. I have nothing but respect for the Rzucek's. May Shanann, Bella, CeCe and Nico RIP. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. But what was a doctors advice likely to be? I asked Nichol if Chris used any steroids or narcotics, one investigator wrote. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. The content produced by YourTango is for informational and educational purposes only. Keep out of reach of children. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. This was on a CNN site "Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant. The THRIVE ELITE Experience has been formulated as a system to synergistically enhance your weight management goals while helping you to look good and feel good. I think that was the form her OCD took. If you are pregnant or breastfeeding consult a doctor before using this product. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Youre on to something here Nick. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. Very charming outside but empty inside. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Its often offered to moms 30 and older. SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT(S) Have you heard about The THRIVE Experience? Shanann Watts sold products for THRIVE by Le-Vel, a multi-level marketing company. Watts repeatedly talks about the murder of Shanann as this moment where he snapped because she supposedly threatened to take the kids away from him. Given that she knew and didnt post straight away about it being a boy sets the news apart from everything else she shared so freely. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. I think he did premeditate this, even if it was just in his mind. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. Matt Naham Aug 20th, 2018, 11:39 am. Nickole Atkinson alerted the police not to report a crime but because she was concerned about Shananns health while pregnant. Four months after Shanann Watts posted that photo, her husband sits in a jail in Colorado, suspected of killing her, along with their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Shan'ann was either pregnant at this point, or about to become pregnant. She didnt break him. As Ive mentioned, if Thrive is genuinely life-enhancing, then this is the ultimate test: can Thrive be used while pregnant? I think you found the MLM hun. I dated a narcissistic sociopath and I get how incredibly cold and unfeeling they can be. His defense team are public defenders, so the State is paying for them. We also know there was a lot of anger and bitterness, especially from Shananns side, over Nut Gate. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? and then, joined as an independent representative for 'Le-vel,' a company that markets 'Thrive' health and wellness products. It's clear from a thorough analysis of all the discovery and both "confessions" that Watts was trying to separate from his wife in the weeks and months before the murders, going back as far as a year [close to when Kessinger allegedly made that first Google search for "Shanann Watts". Watts financial situation is dire, but Le-Vels isnt. The house was brought by the Watts in April 2013 on a loan of $392,709. People divorce and move on with their lives. One theory suggests that Le-vels Thrive patches, possibly in combination with steroids that some folks think Watts was on, led him to snap and kill his family. Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. So I read that Shannan was promoting her Thrive sales, and she was posting about how Chris was using the patch and he was getting up at 3 am to clean the whole house, vacuuming, mopping and everything, the user continued. So, if Watts was essentially abusing Thrive patches AKA, wearing more than one at a time, like the picture of him shows the side effects couldve been amplified. Shan'ann Cathryn Watts, born Shan'ann Rzucek was the late wife of murderer Chris Watts. - July 29, 2021. Crime News is your destination for true crime stories from around the world, breaking crime news, and information about Oxygen's original true crime shows and documentaries. But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . . Kessinger said he also used the company's shakes, pills and supplements on a daily basis. KDVR reported that only a few family members knew it was a boy. However, after 10 years of incredible results with the Classic THRIVE Experience, a new nutritional system is HERE!! In Part 4 of the full Chris Watts Interview Transcription, Chris talks about the shock of finding out Shanann was pregnant with Nico, feeling 'forced' to be in Facebook videos, Shanann Watts THRIVE job, his actions after the murders & separating his family. (Facebook) Despite the bankruptcy filing, the family appeared to have a change in fortune recently after she became a seller for the . Or did I miss a crucial post where she says its a boy. Frankie only knew the sex of the child after her death. He knew his new woman wasnt going to stand for him shelling out half his income in child support, no way. Get an all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! And who would blame who for that? The THRIVE ELITE Experience is a re-engineering & reformulation of what is arguably the worlds most successful nutritional system, the THRIVE Experience. One woman posted a query in September 2015. 2023byTango Publishing Corporation All Rights Reserved. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. They offer blood testing that checks for genetic abnormalities and also gives you the gender if you want it. What I found online was you can find out the gender at 18 weeks or between 16-20 weeks but I dont think she was that far along was she? Thats a great question Georgia. And the arrogant Searcy testifying on the stand wanted to make perfectly clear that his company was not a pyramid, that he had gotten rich because of Prepaid Legal and that Jodi Arias who was in Prepaid Legal in no way tainted the company. This may sound strange but he could have done it to have them be with her in death. He is allowed a small number of visitors, including a few friends, his parents, and his rumored girlfriend, Anna Nowak. It is/was a gut feeling that we all get, a sinking feeling that cant be explained or described but his withdrawal was a big clue that she should have put more stock in. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Shanann, 34, and her daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, were missing for four days before authorities announced that all three were found de. If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. I wonder if she had specialized blood tests done. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. LEONARD's current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Was it weakness on his part or hers? This might have been in an attempt to just glaze over their issues and not answer truthfully but to answer with half-truths. Another user was able to find a list of ingredients, which you can see here. He's the best dad us girls could ask for. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. For now, lets deal with Shananns intentions to Thrive-brand her baby and Thrive-promote her pregnancy and the speed of her conception. Have a great time.". RELATED: Holly Suzanne Courtier Conspiracy Theories: Sheriff Says Lost Zion Hiker's Story 'Doesn't Make Sense'. If you want to take your results to an even higher level, be sure you combine your Classic THRIVE Experience or THRIVE ELITE Experience products with regular exercise, sufficient sleep and a healthy nutrition plan consisting of low-sugar and low-carb . I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANN's last name until a few days ago. Im sure everyone here already knows this now but thought Id still add it. She posted a video of herself on social media announcing the pregnancy to her husband. Address. Nickole Atkinson was the last friend to see Shanann Watts, the pregnant Colorado mom who was brutally murdered along with her two daughters, Bella and Celeste. When it comes to Familicide, it is really hard to pinpoint and say there were absolutely no outward signs I do think CW appeared to be very standoffish and distant in the last videos of them on the trip. But Shanann, who was a promoter for Thrive, a program from direct-selling business Le-Vel, decided to go to a work . Is it safe to use while pregnant or could it actually harm the growing fetus? Documentsreleased by the Weld County District Attorney's Office days after Watts was sentenced to life for smothering daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before strangling Shanann reveal just how into Thrive the couple had become. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. 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