Just buy a 335? Appreciate 0 Quote It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. The stage 1 kit comes in at $1,199 and is able to support roughly 550whp. I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. Also, apart from a couple of crappy attachments in the N54 that can fail, the N54 isn't an engine that needs to be swapped with anything. $1,601.00. Heh, i'm assuming they immediately tuned it, but for a brief second this was probably an engine swap car with the new engine making less power than the original one. Um how to say if your goal is to make the 335 engine work in 320 body shell, then you can definitely do it. I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. Hi guys, after an M5 F10 full swap been done, just got an B58 of an 140i ready to swap. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. 5. . I wouldnt call this a swap as you cant just swap the engine. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. so decided to swap a B58 into it. Laverne: '18 F80 Base 6MT | Paul's E85 | Stock Turbos | Kies Hub | FBOs | 7sec 60-130 | 11.7@124 (Sold in Feb). The B58 has not bested the N54. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. I'd rather the N55 between the two (N54 vs N55) I know you can do more mods and tuning with the N54, but reliability matters more to me personally. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. Press J to jump to the feed. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations; F82Model Year: 2014 - 2020. I wouldnt. 4. i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. Does anyone know if you can put a BMW B58 engine into a 2011-2013 BMW 335i coupe (N55 engine), Also curious if this would work for the 2007-2011 335i coupe. VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . M markusmarkus Registered 2018 M240i Joined Jul 22, 2008 i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. I am intrigued to see a DCT equipped S58. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. E81 / E82 . G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! The 340i downpipe is machined from SS304 aircraft-grade stainless steel and are tig welded in hous For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). This makes no sense, but I love it. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. Vader Solution. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. :). s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . You're a fucking G for taking the time to write this out for the rest of us that are inevitably gonna blow our HP50. B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications. I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. Very interested in seeing more info on this build. VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. 5. Also I made a choice with b58, because I thought in that time that with supra release tuners would pay much more attention for this platform. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. I am Grisha from Rostov, Russia. The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. Good point. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 | 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold SKU FR-TM-A90-B58-T4 Maximize Power and Spool with the 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold NEED HELP? Held rain or shine. I'm not dead set on an E90, I'm dead set on a E92, E90 - has 4 doors E92 - has 2 doors E93 - convertible. I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. Sum of all the parts worth way more than what a used 335i is worth. What do you mean it's bot sleeved? which one will u pick to swap in it? We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. Waste of time and money. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. I think the fact that the OP hasn't said anything shows a lot. We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. com [Download RAW message or body] Hi Daniel, On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Daniel Kiper <dani Poor choice for a race car ??? E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. Do all of those fixes for 4k and drive the crap out of it. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. Do you have any videos on youtube? Items for everyone including white elephants. Why walk up a mountain when you dont have to? I guess that's one way to keep the single turbo sound and getting S55 power levels - from what I've seen the B58 is a beast with a ton of tuning potential. N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. Any challenges you had because the 320 body? BMW N52 Performance Mods - Intake Upgrade. JavaScript is disabled. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Shipping: It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. n52 also had this. Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. So even inner wheel arches on a chassis that looked identical from the outside is different between the models. 1. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. 1 Reply More posts you may like I don't have either ATM. We also have tons of content about N55 upgrades such as N55 fueling mods, turbo upgrades, and so much more! E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. Great to know about the Pure transmissions. Way cheaper and easier to just buy a 335i, debage it and slap a 320i badge on. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. G22Model Year: 2020 + . bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. It has a much higher spec interior, suspension and brakes. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. G22Model Year: 2020 + MTC Motorsport BMW M140i M240i 340i 440i 540i and 740i 4.5" stainless steel decat downpipe for B58 engine only This will NOT fit the 2018 onwards models with the PPF filter unless it has been coded out and can be removed. But I don't know if that exists yet, and many if not most features in the car would work after besides the engine. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. Youll probably beat any b58 any day of the week. I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. Depending on the specific model you're looking at, power output ranges from 302hp and 295lb-ft ll the way up to 365hp and 369lb-ft. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. ! I have a 2011 E90 335i that just spun a rod bearing. A friend of mine I chat with down at rk tunes sent this screenshot to me after it was sent to him. A lot of differences. BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. Silly question, but is this a comparable upgrade to the likes of the new pure drivetrain solutions 8hp50 transmission? Bimmerpost Model Selection. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Not worth it at all. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? N52 Intake Manifold Horsepower Gains: ~20hp (328i) and ~30-35hp (325i) Buy Here: N52 330i 3-Stage Intake Manifold. Is the 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all other than the engine it comes with? I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. N54/N55 has 300hp & 300 lb-ft of torque while the B58 has 382hp & 369 lb-ft of torque. If something ever happens to my N55 I might consider this. It would require WAY to much work to even be remotely worth it. By the time you're done, you prolly could buy a 335 twice over. Yes, there are major hard limits to what the factory car will supply fuel-wise. Funny that I should stumble on this thread . I found a complete B58 engine with ancillaries for a very decent price and due to the reason that my car has 250.000 Km (150.000 miles), Everything is starting to . 75. Can I swap to an S58? It was a post on the M2 page on Facebook. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. It's not even sleeved. 5. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. Stock turbos, the B58 is better. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? Regular price $49.95 View. I'll take one for the team, and I will happily let someone use my car to find out. Possible, but as others have said. Low-end torque SUCKED, so it felt bog slow at low revs. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. TF-Works BMW E30 K-Swap Kit - Phase 1. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. Id entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine). Cannot found anything on the web. 2. Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? Anything is possible, just time and money. B58 done right is a much better power-plant. Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Refreshments available. Provided you can get traction, it would chomp a lot of cars. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. That's pretty cool. 4. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. VS - Upgraded Fuel Line 6AN E-Chassis F-Chassis. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. Bimmerpost Model Selection. www.n54tuning.com / mike@n54tuning.com Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. Once the car was completed, we took it for a test and then took an original 325i for a test. Sell your 320i and swap the plates. The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. Bringing the BMW community together. _____ Jump to Latest Follow . Built by KK-Performance. . As a general rule, the rough lifespan of these BMW parts is as follows: Stock BMW, minimal aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 40,000 - 50,000 miles Ignition Coils: 50,000 - 65,000 miles Heavily modified BMW, significant aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 15,000 miles Ignition Coils: 20,000 - 25,000 miles Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. 8. The B58 has not bested the N54. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. Jun 25, 2022 Hi. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. (1 review) Write a Review. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. Second Lieutenant . Theyre infamous for this. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get . E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Try and keep the blade of the screwdriver on the rubber insulation while pushing to avoid puncturing the wires. From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. Shine 7 am to 2 pm 5: turnsignalslol and brakes possible to engine a... 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