Beyond the boxed sets and dedicated map packs, some other individual products include boardgame mapsheets with hexes. When there is, the CGLs tend to run a little larger. The official height of a Mech has always been a discussion point, some official products have given different heights for certain Mechs, licenced products (like computer games) have given a plethora of conflicting heights for Mechs, and the official miniatures are so out of scale that it isn't funny. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. In addition, punch-out map pieces of various sizes are included to modify the maps as well as a booklet with scenarios and rules expansions for the basic game from Tactical Operations. Besides the standard biped ProtoMechs ranging from 2 to 9 tons, Ultraheavy ProtoMechs also exist ranging from 10 to 15 tons (overlapping in tonnage and capability with some BattleMechs), and there are also both Quadrupedal and Glider ProtoMechs.[15]. Does anyone know if there is a chart or table or something somewhere that lists the height of each mech in meters? Includes the maps from Map Sets 5 and 6, plus Planetary Assault Maps 1 and 2 from BattleForce 2 and the BattleSpace map. FASA product #1638, released in 1991. For more information, please see our By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. It's a gator with a nuke, whats the problem. Note: I should really, just reformat, and report the maps to be ready to print by inked. So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. All the official TT sources stay within the same general size ranges that has always been the same. Unlike the bulky Elementals, this new breed would need to be smaller so that they would be able to fit into the cramped confines of a ProtoMech's torso. Nonetheless, as the hexes are printed to the same size on paper and use the same map symbology the maps can be used interchangeably between these various BattleTech scales. When the BMR said Mechs averaged between 10 and 12 meters, I strongly took them at their word, meaning only a handful of designs broke the mold. Great find! Cookie Notice The big jump was from PGI for MWO, and this game uses those models with a x1.25 modifier on their size. This stunning 16-cm BattleTech Rifleman, for instance, was made in 1/100 scale on an Anycubic Photon Mono X . (Disregarding the autocannon for the purpose of this discussion.) Per pg20 Total Warfare, 'Mechs "stand eight to fourteen meters tall". Lucky I found this post as I was wondering the same question and I have to say that, thanks to Sigma's pics (scales generally go over my head), the size differences on some of them is mad! 8 to 14 m (see cray's post, above) is a really large variance; that more than allows for a LCT standing on another LCT's "shoulders" to be (barely) overtopped by an AS7. I like the bigger miniatures, it gives more detail. Like battle armor and 'Mechs, Protos can mount jump jets which further increases maneuverability. This page was last edited on 4 February 2023, at 22:56. Mechs are BIG. Mech minis are of kinda inconsistent scale anyways. FASA product #1683, released in 1997. What comes in the Latest "A game of armored combat"? ProtoMechs can carry most of the same weapons and equipment as found on 'Mechs, although instead of carrying standard missile launchers they mount groups of missile tubes together. Theyre respectably sized, really. I really wish that were the case. They can look very good, but tend to be pricey. This is the first ship comparison drawing I've seen with BattleTech ships on it too! Some hobbyists love to build giant terrains where even 1/100 scale mechs would look relatively small. In the classic BattleTech board game, as well as in most other games set in the BattleTech universe, the main gameplay takes place on a mapsheet with hexagonal playing fields. Not all mechs are the same. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. (see Other maps below)The 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set and Hex Pack: Lakes and Rivers were the first products to feature a new generation of thick, vinyl covered double-sided map boards from 2010 onwards. I've never seen one of these with Battletech on it! [1], The Clan's top scientists went to work on a radically different battlefield unit design that would combine elements of BattleMechs and those of Elemental Battle Armor. 1:285 (6mm people size) works great for Battletech, though the Kickstarter appears to be shooting for something slightly bigger now. ProtoMech armor is more efficient in terms of its weight-to-protection ratio compared to 'Mech armor due to the reduced surface areas involved and advanced composite material used in its construction; the heaviest ProtoMechs can boast almost as much protection as some light 'Mechs. Unlike classification, the distinction between Large and Small WarShips does have certain effects under the game rules. For all their benefits though, ProtoMechs have several drawbacks (beyond that associated with using EI). German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech III" (see below). since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. A map set focused on unusual biomes, with two double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. [9], The Inner Sphere, however, showed little to no interest in developing their own ProtoMechs. The beginner boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game map, with maps called Grasslands #1 (Side A) and Desert #1 (Side B). And how Huge the ATF went with the Valhalla, bigger than a standard gate. Conversely, some Renegade Legion products contain mapsheets that were never officially published for BattleTech, but can be used for BattleTech nonetheless. Press J to jump to the feed. When something as simple as size keeps shifting from 3 to 5+ stories in height it gets a bit difficult to concentrate ;-). A first, unnumbered GeoTech set was published in 1990 containing a specially produced (German) BattleTech rules booklet with excerpts from the BattleTech Manual rulebook and the Mountain Lake, Scattered Woods, Desert Hills and City Ruins maps, i.e. Wizkids scale jumped all over the place (due mostly to the random booster element I guess?) [13] Weapons such as the ER Micro Laser and Light Machine Gun were initially developed by the Smoke Jaguars specifically for ProtoMechs, though they have since spread to other combat units. Using the original mapsheet art, and sized for compatibility with the original printed sheets and newer Hex Packs alike, they are meant as a PDF game aid to be printed out as required. [5], ProtoMechs achieved their baptism of fire during the Battle of Huntress, which was also when Smoke Jaguar Khan Lincoln Osis first learned of the program. When is wave 2 happening? 'Let the poetry of darkness be written henceforth!. 1,471,925 C-bills Technical specifications 'Mech type Inner Sphere BattleMech Mass 30 tons Chassis Republic-R Armor Durallex Medium Engine Leenex 60 Communications System Dalban Interact Targeting Tracking System Dalban Urban Heat Sinks 11 single Speed 32 km/h Jump Jets Pitban 6000 Armament 1x AC/10 1x small laser BV (1.0) 454 BV (2.0) 504[1][2] Like the preceding MapPacks, but unlike Mappack: Solaris VII, it is a purely digital product. Guerrilla raids and uprisings within their Inner Sphere occupation zone had left them stretched to the limit in resources. Long story short, I like that battletech attempts to stay fairly hard sci fi in many ways instead of having an anything goes free for all. Overview. "Men, fetch the Urbanmechs. I also like the smaller size of the old unseens. Vehicles and dropships are also compared as well. I'd stick to neoprene maps. The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). Between 1990 and 1997, German BattleTech licensee FanPro, who would later also be the game's English-language publisher for a time, reproduced Map Sets 2 through 5 and sold them as GeoTech I through IV in Germany. You have two different universes with two different design parameters. 2. generally, the differences between lights and assualts hasn't been height, it has been width and general bulk.. assualt mechs tend to be chunkier, with thicker body parts, more barrel shaped chest areas, etc. Captain; WH40K - Imperim of Man: - Space Marine Terminator Armour (Exosuit) - Imperial Knight (light Mech) - Warhound Titan (medium Mech) - Reaver Titan (heavy Mech) - Warlord Titan (assault Mech) - Imperator Titan (super-heavy Mech) Image details. This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 15:28. I try not to think about it to much. So comparison shots. Some are tall and thin, some are short and squat. There are fifteen columns, 01XX through 15XX, and there are nominally 17 rows, XX01 through XX17. FASA product #1618. Your enemies might have a few anti-air mechs or vehicles that will easily eliminate fighteres and need to be taken out. If one side has CBT minis and the other has the MWDA figs, it's going to look pretty stupid, but shouldn't affect gameplay. About 8 to 14 meters, depending on the 'Mech. I keep hearing about it but not dates. I'm assuming you mean the WizKids "Clix" versions and the IWM versions? A HumVee is as heavy and big as a tank!" #1 How does the mechwarrior figs compare in size to the regular Battletech guys ? When Task Force Serpent first encountered ProtoMechs during the Battle of Huntress, they were completely unknown, and the task force gave them designations in the field. One side depicted part of Imperial City, the other Kado-guchi Valley. I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. This is great! Some use bulkier materials, some don't. It is shorter in height than most BT hovers but once elevated on a base I think it will not be very noticeable. The back was a blank hex board in earlier editions; such blank playing fields are not considered tournament-legal maps though. So I went on and drew my own maps. [1] Because of the somewhat diffuse criteria associated with each class and role, the classification is arbitrary and . BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat. Independence Day. The A Game of Armored Combat boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps, with maps called Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. The K and D resculpt infantry are in true mech scale and you can compare them to DA infantry here. Privacy Policy. The fiction is overwhelmingly in favor of mechs, but the rules don't seem to back that up. and our And you'll likely want additional 3d terrain to put on top. A high-quality neoprene map set, designed for hexless Alpha Strike play, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time. Typically, two mapsheets would be included with every boxed set. Knowing that their Khans would not even consider full-scale production of ProtoMechs until they were proven effective in combat, the Smoke Jaguar scientists and geneticists began working on the project in secret, understanding that it could be years before their work could be revealed. parts of Map Set 2, plus four plastic paper clips. Or, as the next source, there are 'Mech blueprints. I can't cite a source, but I'm fairly certain 9.5m is way too short for a SHD. This, combined with their smaller engines, would allow the Smoke Jaguars to make many more of these for less material. [1], This basic mapsheet, two of which are included in each boxed set, is a standardized size and has an addressing scheme printed on the map in a staggered row and column format. Clix is played on N scale 1:160~ where a 1/16th of an inch is a scale foot. The cheap option is going to a local fabric store and get some felt. Hell, it's pretty much common knowledge thats a load. Maps included: Large Mountain #1, Deep Canyon #1 (double-sided). Also benefits from 3d terrain on top/books under. The guy specifically asked for maps, not for instruction on not using them. The first side of this BattleMat is a desert map containing 8 of the 12 maps from Map Pack: Deserts, and the second side is a grasslands map containing 8 of the 12 maps from Map Pack: Grasslands. After a couple requests and seeing several comments other places asking about the size comparisons of the 2 games overlapping mecha, here you go.want to take. Those equipped with arms are also unable to flip or reverse them, requiring that they twist their torso to hit opponents directly behind them.[13]. Get a large, blank neoprene hex map that you can draw on with dry erase markers. Huge difference, since the clix are about twice as large. Jump distance is 200 meters , so impr. [10] The only Inner Sphere faction known to have moved beyond theoretical discussions was the Word of Blake, overcoming the control and pilot size issues with the development of an advanced pilot interface based off their Vehicular Direct Neural Interface technology, encasing a limbless Manei Domini in a life-support apparatus that was then sealed within a ProtoMech, the pilot maintained via intravenous nutrients and recycled biomatter. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Released in 1985. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time, Konrad ' Hengist " Littman Highlander 732b. Silent Running. 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